Sans Souci is in Seattle!
I still think of Sans Souci as our “new boat.” It replaced a smaller boat from the same manufacturer (a Norhavn 62 which bore the same name.) I remember when she was built and all the excitement of customizing her, traveling to Taiwan to watch her built, waiting anxiously as she was delivered to the US aboard a freighter, and finally starting the engines for the first time.
That was only about eight years ago, but since that time she has taken us over thirty thousand miles, south to Costa Rica, north to Alaska, then across the Bering Sea, through Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong. In the Eastern Med we explored Turkey, Greece, Malta, Croatia, Montenegro. Then to the Med where we explored Sardinia, Italy, Spain and France. It has been an amazing journey.
Sailors (and, us power boaters) have been known to claim that the true definition for the word “cruising” is “Fixing your boat in exotic places.”
Salt water is corrosive. It may be pretty, but the same sea spray which feels so good as you move through it is constantly eating away at everything on the boat. Plus, think about the toll that bouncing over ocean waves takes on a boat. Imagine even the best-built of homes, and what would happen were you to dangle it from a giant bungie cord rising and falling every few seconds for months at a time. And, then think about all the systems on a boat; four different electrical systems (12v, 24v, 120v, 240v) with electricity that we make ourselves, water that we make ourselves, satellite communications equipment, navigation equipment, satellite tv positioning systems, grey water system, black water system and much more. Boats are comprised of dozens of intricate systems which live in a highly corrosive environment.
The bottom line: Those of you who are reading this particular blog entry hoping I’ll talk about sexy and exciting places to go may as well stop reading now. Sans Souci has put on a lot of miles over the past eight years and the time has come to “make her new again” before we set out on our next big adventure.
I’d also say that if you are someone hoping to buy a boat, hide this article from your significant other. It is best if she or he doesn’t figure our what boats really cost, or how much work they are, until later.
The rule of thumb on boats is that one should estimate about 10% of the purchase price for a boat as the annual maintenance budget. I could never understand how people could spend that much, but … as you’ll see reading this blog entry, I’m doing a few years of “catch up” this year!
Each season as we cruise I make a list of things that need fixed. This has meant shipping spare parts around the world.
During the off-season, Jeff my Seattle based mechanic and his team fly to wherever I’ve left the boat and start working on the annual maintenance. This has meant getting work done in dozens of countries, each with their own import regulations, access to parts, and languages. Some countries, where you would think it would be easiest turned out to represent a serious challenge. In Japan we struggled even to find engine oil. Jeff did a fantastic job, but the fact is that getting the right people and the right parts, while traveling internationally, is not easy and in some places it is impossible.
There are many projects which we decided were best handled when the boat returned to Seattle.
This past season Roberta and I really started sensing that the time had come to bring Sans Souci home. The boat was running fine, and if we had needed to cross an ocean, I have no doubt we’d have made it without having to pull out the oars. But, there were dozens of little ways in which Sans Souci was sending us a message that she wanted some loving of the sort Jeff could only give her back home in Seattle.
We had planned to cruise this past summer in the Caribbean along with our GSSR partner boats Seabird and Ocean Pearl. However, there were lots of reasons why it just didn’t happen. In addition to our sensing that Sans Souci needed serious maintenance, we had some personal issues that pulled us home.
Some of you might know that we have lived, when not on the boat, in Mexico for the last seventeen years. Last year we decided to build a home in the California Desert and sell our home in San Jose Del Cabo, Mexico. We were working with an architect to design our new home, plus needed to get our home in Mexico ready for sale. Our home in Cabo took a direct hit from a hurricane a couple years ago. We had made most of the repairs but there was still some work to do to get the home ready for sale, and the toughest was to break the news to our friends and neighbors that we’d be moving. This was particularly rough in that we had created a life so good that no one understood why we’d be willing to blow it up. All we could say in response is that we did it because at the core we are wandering nomads. The perfection of our lives in Cabo was part of what we wanted to change. We like new places, new things, new challenges, new restaurants, etc. It’s why we cruise the world. Our life in Cabo was too comfortable and we wanted to shake things up.
It was time to send Sans Souci home and focus on events at home.
Anyway .. this all brings me to the work that is now well underway.
Like all boat repair lists, ours started small and grew.
Initially, all we wanted was to update the boat cosmetically. The carpet was worn. Our doggies had put some scratches in the wood floors, there were dings in the cabinetry, fiberglass that had been bumped by the tender, the couch in the living room was starting to sag and the outside cushions had faded.
No decision has been made on where we will be cruising next. We don’t know if it will be in the continental United States or if we’ll be heading somewhere off the grid. We have discussed heading back to Alaska, but we have also discussed Hawaii, the Caribbean and South America. Our assumption is that we’ll go somewhere and that it probably means that this is our last bite at the apple for major boat repairs before we start another five to ten years of having the boat away from home. Whatever we do next we know that we want the boat made new before we begin, so that our next thirty thousand miles are as trouble free as those that have already passed beneath our keel.
There was only one really big project we were discussing…
Those who read my blog this last season were frustrated by reading me whine in virtually every blog entry about our inability to find a calm peaceful anchorage. We have “flopper stoppers” – giant trays we hang off the side of the boat which help keep the boat from being tossed around when our anchorage isn’t calm. Normally these do a great job, but they were inadequate for the unprotected anchorages we found in the Med. We ripped the trays off the boat on a couple of occasions and were miserable at anchor for most of the season.
Thus, I started researching “at rest” stabilization.
When Sans Souci is underway we have giant wings under the water that look like stubby aircraft wings. As we move through the water they pivot in an effort to keep the boat flat. If you’ve ever put your hand out the window while driving you know how they work. But when sitting still, they do nothing to keep the boat from moving with the waves.
The first option I explored was the gyro based systems, like Seakeeper. These work by spinning a giant ball at very high speed to stabilize the boat. Remember the tops and gyroscopes we had as kids? It’s the same principal, and they do work.
But, unfortunately, a gyro based system wouldn’t be possible on Sans Souci. The gyros grow in size based on the weight of the vessel they are trying to stabilize. A gyro sufficient in size to stabilize Sans Souci would weigh two tons, and be nearly four feet across. I simply couldn’t find room to place it anywhere. A single-engine boat like ours “might” find a place, but our twin engines fill the engine room.
I had heard about another system which would use the boat’s existing stabilizers to provide at rest stabilization but have had doubts about whether or not it really works. Basically, all it does is flap the stabilizer fins even though the boat is sitting still. By moving the fins rapidly the movement of the waves is counteracted. The company that made my stabilizers has pitched me on it a few times over the years but I’d never heard of anyone successfully using their system. I hadn’t heard anything bad, but I didn’t know of any boats as heavy as mine using the system successfully.
I posted a message to all the owners of large Nordhavns to see whether anyone else had experimented with the system, and received a response from only one Nordhavn owner, who had upgraded to the system, but then partially uninstalled the system. The stabilizer fins required are larger than the normal stabilizer fins. I spoke with the owner of the boat and he didn’t like how the boat felt while underway with the over-sized fins. He went back to the normal sized fins, reducing the effectiveness of the at-rest stabilization. His experience was an exception though. I spoke with other boat owners (all lighter boats, and non-Nordhavn) who said the system did work and was very effective. And, I convinced myself that the larger fins would be fine on my boat. The other Nordhavn was single engine, and my dual engine, twin skeg, boat would track much better through the water. I’m confident that having larger fins will not be an issue on my boat.
As I got deeper into the project I discovered the project wouldn’t be as simple as I first thought. For example, my stabilizers are powered by a hydraulic system that runs off my main engines. I would need a way to power the hydraulic system without the main engines running. This would mean a large electrically-powered hydraulic pump, which I’d need to find space for. I then realized that the “actuators” (the big piston-driven mechanism inside the boat that pivots the stabilizers) would need replaced with larger units. I’d also need to replace the computer brain that powered the stabilizers. And as the project became reality we hit other surprises. Jeff recommended we hire a nautical engineer to verify that the hull was strong enough to handle the larger stabilizers, and then the engineer recommended beefing up the fiberglass.
At this point, if I had it to do over again, I probably wouldn’t. But – I haven’t tried out the new stabilizers yet and won’t until we put the boat in the water in June. If the system does its job it will have all been worth it. I am optimistic, but the jury is still out.
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How to turn a little project into a big project
There is a gentleman named Steve D’Antonio who offers marine consulting services. His reputation is legendary and I’ve always wanted an excuse to have him look at Sans Souci. One of the many services he offers is boat inspection. Steve has a reputation for finding EVERYTHING wrong on a boat. One fellow boater I spoke to, when I mentioned wanting Steve to survey my boat, said, “Ken, don’t do it. Steve will find so much wrong with your boat that when he is finished you’ll take one look at his report and then sell the boat.” I am very confident in Sans Souci’s seaworthiness, but that’s a challenge I could not resist. When we head to sea with Sans Souci we are literally betting our lives on the boat getting us to our destination safely. I have absolute confidence in my normal mechanic Jeff, but .. there’s nothing wrong with getting a second opinion. If there is even a remote possibility that something somewhere might need fixed, I want it found. A thousand miles offshore is the wrong place to discover that a bolt should be tightened.
It would be an understatement to say that Steve did an amazing job. His reputation is well deserved. To be fair, arguably, most of the items he found are things that would be fine without fixing, or that Jeff would have caught and fixed. But .. Steve spent two long days crawling everywhere on Sans Souci and came up with hundreds of items and SIX HUNDRED and FIFTY pictures of things that he felt merited attention. Sans Souci is a carefully maintained boat. It has been difficult getting the repairs exactly the way I want them given all the frustrations of international travel. But… we now have the time and the right team to get things made new. Between Steve and Jeff, I have zero doubt that Sans Souci will be better than new when she comes back from the shipyard. If you ever hear a boat has been through a Steve D’Antonio inspection and the repairs made, you can feel comfortable taking that boat to sea.
In addition to everything else going on, here are a few samples of other projects…
I decided to overhaul the navigation system on Sans Souci.
First, a bit of background…
We have been running two different pieces of software for chart plotting: Nobeltec Odyssey (on a Windows PC) and Furuno Navnet 3d (which is a proprietary hardware system.) The two systems have very different interfaces, and I’ve never really used the Navnet 3d system. I use it as a backup, but even as a backup it has seemed unreliable and awkward to use. In BOTH Turkey and Spain it died completely and had to be replaced. If you think it is frustrating to spend money replacing equipment you use, imagine spending money on equipment that is a never-used backup.
Actually, there is one minor piece of Navnet 3d that I do use. Whereas I haven’t been impressed with Navnet 3d as a chart plotting system, it comes in handy as a second radar from time to time.
When Jeff called to say, “You need new charts for your Navnet 3d system,” I responded, “You know. I don’t use anything but the radar. Why don’t I just install a cheap radar, PLUS get a second computer running Nobeltec?” At first Jeff thought I was crazy. I sent him a link to a cheap radar, and he wrote back, “Ken. That is a piece of crap. You don’t want it on the boat.” I reminded Jeff that I was just looking for a backup radar, not my primary radar. Given that it was a piece of equipment that might never be used, why would it being a piece of fecal matter make a difference?
I don’t remember if it was Jeff or I who had the winning idea…
I wanted Navnet 3d off the boat. We discussed going with something called TZ Touch, that to be honest I still don’t completely understand. What I knew was that I liked Nobeltec and didn’t really want to learn something new, and I was not giving up Nobeltec as my primary system. Not happening. And, as we looked at cheap radars, I started thinking about training Roberta or any crew, on using the backup radar. And.. the toughest one to train would be – me! Don’t let anyone tell you that it is easy to use radar. On a clear day with only a few boats around, radar is easy. But .. when running in rough seas, with ugly weather, with lots of boats around, knowing how to make the radar do magic is absolutely critical. And, as I thought about this ..the solution was obvious. What I really wanted was to have my backup be the same as my primary. I wanted TWO copies of Nobeltec, and two of my “good” (Furuno 2127 BB) radar. If I’m at sea, and my radar or my chart plotter flakes out, I want to press a button and go. I don’t want to futz around learning a new system that I never use.
Thus … the decision was made that:
– Navnet 3d would go
– My pre-existing primary radar would become my backup
– I’d get a second computer to run Nobeltec
– I’d get a new radar as my primary, that would be just like what my old radar was
To make a very long story short, I ultimately decided that the right answer was to have twin computers, each running Nobeltec, with two identical radars. My primary radar has been a Furuno Black box 2127 unit. It’s a high-end commercial unit and has been bulletproof. My existing 2127 will now be my backup and the new 2127 will be my primary. The beauty of this is that whereas before everyone needed to learn two different radar packages and two different chartplotter packages I now have two identical systems on tap at all times.
Here’s a quick summary of some other projects:
Carpeting – Roberta and I disagree on what to do with carpeting on the boat. She is focused on pretty, and I am focused on “lasts forever.” Every time we walk into some high-traffic location (like an airport) and I see carpet, I immediately say, “Why can’t we have this carpet?” Roberta always says, “Don’t worry. I will choose something durable.” Fingers are crossed that she does.
Wood dings – Someone once told me that scratches and dings are “personality.” If you see an eight year old boat that has zero scratches, the odds are it has been a marina queen, or owned by someone who was afraid to take it out into rough seas. We’re going to make Sans Souci new again, but anyone going on board today would instantly know that Sans Souci has lots of personality.
Annual Maintenance – I subscribe to a service called “Wheelhouse Technologies.” They have a database with all of the equipment on my boat. Each piece of equipment has recommended maintenance at different intervals. Bearings need greased. Pumps need replaced, rebuilt, or new bearings. Engines need oil changes, new oil filters and new fuel filters. Hoses need replaced. The list is endless. Even on a normal year there is plenty to be done on Sans Souci. As a bit of a side story, in one of my first jobs as a computer programmer I was assigned to programming software to keep track of maintenance on the DC-10 aircraft. I remember the stacks of paper that we would generate showing work to be done. They now seem small!
Steve D’Antonio – Steve’s “fix it” list on Sans Souci is a full-time job. Steve did exactly what I wanted. He dug deep, and focused on the small details. He crawled into places I never knew existed. Jeff will be assigning a full time mechanic just to “work Steve’s list.”
Mickey Smith – Sometimes cool things happen. The original designer of my boat’s electrical system was an engineer named Mickey Smith. He worked for Nordhavn designing their electrical systems, and then went to a competitor, followed by retiring. Recently Mickey decided to “drop back in” and Jeff scooped him up. No one is more prepared to look at my electrical system and verify that it is exactly right than Mickey Smith. There are some projects that I will be speaking to Mickey about. In particular, how we designed Sans Souci is different than how we use Sans Souci. I remember adding tremendous battery and inverter capacity to Sans Souci thinking we’d want to survive overnight at anchor without running a generator. I have an amazing 14kw of inverter power and over 2,000 amp hours of battery capacity! That is two or three times what most boats my size have. And, what is really strange is that we just don’t use it. Sans Souci’s electrical requirements are such that we always run a generator. We like cruising in warm places, running the air conditioning constantly, and we like our satellite tv, satellite internet … and even running the hot tub. Sans Souci is a very comfortable boat. We have the creature comforts of a boat many times our size and also the electrical requirement. The inverters and batteries are not used, but take up a lot of space, put out a lot of heat, add complexity to the boat, and need maintained. My #1 lesson from our 10s of thousands of miles of cruising is that “simple is good.” Anything I can do to simplify the boat is a good thing. Having anything on the boat that is complex and unused is not smart. I’m not ready to say that I want to remove this stuff from the boat, but I am looking forward to talking with Mickey about what he thinks I should do (and, having him tweak my system.)
Bumper on the back – One of Jeff’s more interesting projects is to experiment with adding a rubber bumper to the back of my boat. Every year, one of Jeff’s projects is to re-fiberglass the swim step at the back of the boat. Year after year we bump the swim step with the tender and take out chunks of the fiberglass, as well as pieces of the teak. It’s not that we’re bad drivers of the tender, but there are times when the tender arrives at the back of Sans Souci and the swim step is moving through a six foot arc. On those days the focus is on getting passengers onto the swim step safely. No one cares about whether the tender or swim step takes a little abuse. I have done experiments with putting large fenders at the back of the swim step and last year had a custom wide fender made that exactly matched the swim step, but nothing works. This year I want Jeff to find a way to put rubber around the swim step that won’t come off. It’s a trickier task than it sounds.
Rewiring the boat – Sans Souci was born with messed up wiring. When we were early in construction on Sans Souci I hired a top company out of Florida (Larry Smith Electronics) to install all of the entertainment, communications and navigation electronics. They developed fancy wiring diagrams and sent the wire over to Taiwan where the boat was built. They then went bankrupt taking my money with them. I then hired a new company who had their own way of doing things and produced their own fancy wiring diagrams, and shipped a lot more wire to Taiwan. My boat wound up with two sets of wiring, much of which went nowhere! This left an undocumented mess which has haunted the boat over the years and which I decided needed cleaned up. Thus, we’re pulling both sets of wires; trash bag after trash bag of wires, completely off the boat and rewiring. While we’re going we are updating to the latest standards; things like HDMI to all the TVs, an HDMI switcher allowing any video to be routed anywhere, NMEA 2000, etc.
Anchor watch – This is a small project, but one that could have tremendous benefit. We tend to anchor for most of the nights in a season. On a calm night anchoring is wonderful, but when the wind kicks up anchoring can become a challenge. We’re spent many long nights sitting in the pilothouse watching the wind gauge hoping that the anchor would hold and the boat wouldn’t wind up on shore. I also use a series of “apps” on my ipad and iphone to track where we are in our “circle” (the circle that we swing around our anchor.) What I’ve always wanted is a simple alarm that would wake me if the wind goes past a certain velocity. When we drop anchor, we tend to have a very good idea what it would take to cause the boat to break anchor. If it is shallow water and sand, with lots of room to put out chain, we’re in better shape than when on hard pack or weeds and not much scope. We usually have a pretty good idea what speed wind could potentially be a threat. What if I could simply have an alarm that wakes me if the wind passes a certain speed? Over time at an anchorage confidence builds. If on our first night in an anchorage we see 30 knots of wind and the boat holds solid, 25 knots won’t be moving us on subsequent nights. Each night I can set the threshold higher as we sit in the anchorage. On the first night I might say “Wake me at 25 knots.” And, if I was woken and we the wind were to leap to 40 knots, I would feel safe in setting the “wake alarm” to 35 knots on the second night. It’s just a way of avoiding being woke up unnecessarily.
Kayaks – Sans Souci has two tenders on the bow; a 15′ tender and an 11′ tender. The small tender is never used. A couple years back I swapped the engine on the small tender to electric, figuring it would be easier to maintain, and I was right. But.. the tender still isn’t being used. So .. we decided that perhaps we should dump the small tender completely and replace with a couple of kayaks. We bought a couple of fun looking Hobie Kayaks that you paddle with your feet (or, oar by hand.) They seem like they will be good exercise, fun to goof off with, plus easier to beach when we need to get to shore and there are waves. They are fairly light — but, not light. Each weighs around 80 pounds, and our bow sits about 10′ in the air. I’m not sure if I’ll need to use the davit to lower them into the water, or if I can pitch them over the side. It will be a learning experience.
New tender – Roberta and I spent last season taking pictures of the tenders from other boats. We knew our tender was getting old and tired and were trying to decide what to replace it with. Many readers of my blog sent suggestions. Ultimately, we decided that we’d just re-order a new version of what we already had (an AB Inflatables 15DLX.) You can’t beat up a tender or run it in rougher conditions than we have, and our tender runs great. It is fast and reliable. What more could we want?
Stabilizers – I already mentioned the huge project to replace my stabilizers. I had lunch with a friend who flew 747 aircraft for many years and mentioned to him that my new fins would make his wings look small. I was only partially joking! The new fins are shaped differently and are much larger. And, what I didn’t appreciate at first was that everything needs upsized. The “actuator;” the piston driven mechanism that drives the fins needs replaced and my hydraulic system needs upsized to handle the hydraulic needs. It’s a bunch more work than I expected.
Seachest – Much of the equipment on Sans Souci uses seawater for cooling. Rather than each of these items (the generators, the hydraulic system, the a/c chillers) having their own sea water intakes, all of the water comes into a single “box” and is distributed to the equipment from this single box (which has two intakes and six outflows.) The problem is that the box (chest) is tough to clean and loses effectiveness when it needs cleaning. We’re moving the seachest where it can be made larger, and the new seachest will be lined with copper, which sounds wrong to me, but allegedly will collect crud much slower.
Exhaust – This season, I had problems with Sans Souci overheating at higher RPMs. We discovered some leaks in the exhaust system and hopefully this was the issue…
Air Handlers – Sans Souci uses a “chilled water” air conditioning system. This means that the boat has machines (called chillers) which refrigerate water (or, heat water) and distribute it throughout the boat in a giant plastic loop. In each of the rooms of the boat there are little machines called “air handlers” that look like car radiators. The piped water goes into the air handlers which have fans that blow heated or cooled air into the room. Some of Sans Souci’s air handlers are noisy and annoying as a result of being operated non-stop in hot humid environments for nearly a decade. We are replacing the air handlers, which means in some cases doing woodwork, as the air handlers are buried deep in cabinetry.
HD 7 – Sans Souci has not been in the mainland of the United States since 2009. For the first part of our world cruise we had no television. But in the Western Med we were able to obtain satellite tv from the UK. Coming back to the US we had to replace parts of the satellite positioning unit to obtain US tv. We also had to replace the satellite tv receivers. Well … given that all of this work was happening, when Jeff called to say, “Ken. Are you sure you want to continue with your eight year old sat tv receiver? It is now obsolete and your unit is near the end of its life. If you get a new one you’ll get HD.” What could I say?
New auto pilot – Sans Souci’s exterior controls are starting to show their age, and needed replaced. As Jeff was looking into replacing them, he discovered my auto-pilot (the system that I use to drive Sans Souci) is now obsolete and hard to get parts for. “Crap,” I said and approved upgrading to the latest autopilot system. Remember — the goal is to get Sans Souci back BETTER than when new.
Anyway… that’s it so far, but .. there are still a couple of months ahead of work, and the list could grow. Although, I don’t see how it could! Other than the hull it really will be a new boat!
As to this year’s cruising…
The current plan is that we won’t be cruising this year! I apologize to readers of my blog, but we’ve been cruising every year since buying our Nordhavn 62 in 1997. This may change, but our current plan is to spend plenty of time on the boat, but sitting at the dock. We haven’t ruled out the possibility that we’ll get bored and fire up the engines, but … spending a year just sitting at the dock in the Pacific NW, zipping around the bay with the kayaks and tender, sounds pretty darn good!
As to future cruising…
I am typing this from on an airplane as we travel to Hawaii. Our current idea (and, keep in mind that all cruising ideas are written on sand at low time) is that we’ll take the boat to Hawaii. That said, we have friends who say there is no good cruising in Hawaii, and other friends saying it is a wonderful place to have a boat. We figure we’ll check it out for ourselves and then decide. Alternately, we might head to the Caribbean, or back to Alaska, or I’d like to go back to Croatia, or Roberta would like South America, or ..
We have lots of choices!
Thank you,
Ken Williams
N68 Sans Souci
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Response to a post by Aaron Evans who said:
Ken,
I love reading your blog. The dedication you have to upgrading Sans Souci is amazing.
I’m a young(ish) software developer hoping to take my family sailing some day. Your career (and travel) is an inspiration.
Thank you! Hopefully this is the last of the upgrades for a while. At this point we’d like to go back to enjoying the boat. We’re at a marina now and the boat is doing great!
Ken,
I love reading your blog. The dedication you have to upgrading Sans Souci is amazing.
I’m a young(ish) software developer hoping to take my family sailing some day. Your career (and travel) is an inspiration.
Response to a post by James who said:
Great blog and well worth the wait….(it was a loooooong time between drinks!!) I am sure your new stabs will works just great! See you soon.
Thank you! (FYI — you saw a sneak peek of my blog that releases tomorrow!
It would be out today, but .. it will take me 24 hours to proof read the thing)
Great blog and well worth the wait….(it was a loooooong time between drinks!!) I am sure your new stabs will works just great! See you soon.
Response to a post by Ken Williams who said:
I’m guilty of being lazy. The boat is still with the mechanics, but allegedly is getting close. I am scheduled for a checkout ride next tuesday. Then, we should take delivery on August 18. I need to do a blog entry to talk about all they are doing …..
Thanks Ken….As an A/V guy, IT guy (my profession) and I’m a marine gear head…I truly enjoy all your blogs especially the technical blogs…..I’m sure your very busy with your company and your new home (how’s that coming?) Thanks for taking the time (when you have it) to bring us all along on your adventures with your awesome boat.
I recently had some friends get a giant Sunseeker or the like and for a 70’+ boat they were bragging about their almost 500 mile range….I was laughing as your boat can go 4x that range!! I told them they should have gotten a Nordhavn it’s safer and more reliable!! I don’t understand why ppl as so hooked on speed and horsepower?? In my opinion everyone should get a trawler!!
Take Care and have fun!!
-Michael
Response to a post by Michael Akrop who said:
when do we get an update on the “updated Sans Souci” ?
I’m guilty of being lazy. The boat is still with the mechanics, but allegedly is getting close. I am scheduled for a checkout ride next tuesday. Then, we should take delivery on August 18. I need to do a blog entry to talk about all they are doing … there’s a LOT more than I put into this entry
Thanks for asking!
Response to a post by Ken Williams who said:
I’ve never actually been “too lazy” for something before. I’m trying to clean up my act. Grin.
It would have been cool though. I would have felt like Captain Kirk!
when do we get an update on the “updated Sans Souci” ?
Response to a post by Garrett Wegerif who said:
Hello Ken, I’ve been a big fan of your blog since 2009. Although I have limited overnight cruising experience I have done plenty of boating on the east coast of Florida and frequent the boat show circuit down here. I have been really impressed with h…
Garrett:
I also missed getting to see Sans Souci when she was in Florida. Apparently we had an amazing boat slip.
We are starting to think of what our next big adventure will be, and one of the ideas being discussed is: Ship the boat to Florida for next summer and start the cruising from there (I don’t want to hint at where we go from there – but, we have some fun ideas).
As to Seakeeper — we couldn’t find space in our engine room to put a couple of the Seakeeper units. If I were designing a new boat I’d plan the Seakeeper units first, and then tell the boat builder to do what they can to try to fit in an engine (or two.)
Thank you!
Hello Ken, I’ve been a big fan of your blog since 2009. Although I have limited overnight cruising experience I have done plenty of boating on the east coast of Florida and frequent the boat show circuit down here. I have been really impressed with how SeaKeeper has been taking over the stabilization market. It’s on everything from the 92ft Viking sport fish to 36ft center consoles. Did you consider installing two or three smaller gyros rather than one large unit? I’ve been told that is an option for retrofitting boats that weren’t originally designed with a SeaKeeper in mind.
As always I enjoyed your technical blog post (almost more than the cruising post). At the same time they are always a little discouraging to realize the finances that go into maintaining a reliable cruising vessel. I have enough trouble keeping up with my 26ft single engine center console.
Good luck with the refit. Was sad I missed her when she was in ft Lauderdale.
Response to a post by Alyssa R. K. Watson who said:
It’s an old corny joke but it still amuses me. BOAT stands for Bring On Another Thousand.
This is an interesting blog. Looking forward to hearing more about your travels!
Grin – I thought I had heard them all. But, that’s a new one! (and.. true!)
It’s an old corny joke but it still amuses me. BOAT stands for Bring On Another Thousand.
This is an interesting blog. Looking forward to hearing more about your travels!
You have the coolest life ever.
Response to a post by Chris Hallock who said:
Ken, Sounds like you need to have a chat with James Hamilton about the Maretron system. He has done some pretty cool stuff with his implementation on Dirona. All up to you and what you want to design for screens and inputs.
Also what PC’s are you us…
These are the tiny PCs I am using:
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/p… (http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/ipc2/)
The IPC2 is a completely fanless design with 2 x HDMI outputs (and a displayport) and lots of USB ports. It comes with an available i7 processor though it is G5 not
G6.
I got rid of the Kaleidescape. The players kept dying based on the heat and humidity. It seemed overly fragile. I got tired of replacing drives and players.
I did install a BIG hdmi switch — 8×16 HDMI (from Crestron)– It is awesome and everything goes through it, (radars, sonar, simon, nav computers, apple tv, sat receiver, etc)
I did install Maretron but haven’t played with it yet. Simon is a closed system, whereas I can have some fun (like James) with the Maretron.
Response to a post by Ken Williams who said:
Good question .. I went with “SImon” form Palladium Technologies. Their system is excellent but proprietary and expensive. As part of this overhaul I am adding a Maretron backbone. I’ve heard nothing but good about their system. My plan is to experim…
Ken, Sounds like you need to have a chat with James Hamilton about the Maretron system. He has done some pretty cool stuff with his implementation on Dirona. All up to you and what you want to design for screens and inputs.
Also what PC’s are you using for nav computers?
What did you end up doing for entertainment system network? I assume a large HDMI switcher? I know you were wanting to do simple on that at one time. Are you still using the Kaleidescape system as well?
Great technical post, keep them coming, I know I enjoy them for sure.
Thanks,
Chris
Response to a post by Renee Hazellief who said:
Oh, 1 more thing. We do not have a boat monitoring system on 6829 but are considering a system for 7625. What, if anything, would you do differently regarding your current system?
Good question .. I went with “SImon” form Palladium Technologies. Their system is excellent but proprietary and expensive. As part of this overhaul I am adding a Maretron backbone. I’ve heard nothing but good about their system. My plan is to experiment with Maretron and then switch over if I am impressed. Let me know if you want me to hook you up with the guys installing Maretron on my boat….
Response to a post by Sean Welsh who said:
Hi Ken. Great post and very informative.
Steve D’Antonio is a good friend; he also inspected my boat pre-purchase (his pre-purchase inspection on a different boat caused us to walk away from the deal entirely). It took me nearly two years to fix eve…
Wow! It is amazing to speak with someone who remembers the Imagination Network. We were so far ahead of our times it is amazing… If only AT&T (or, us?) hadn’t screwed it up. We should have BEEN the internet…
As you said — we do sometimes board via the side. I don’t remember ever boarding via the side doors while bouncing around, but I suspect it is only because I forgot to leave the door open when leaving the boat.
We’re going to figure out something for the stern. I’m not sure yet .. but, when I was at Delta (the shipyard) I saw Jeff and the Delta guy standing on my stern pointing and working on ideas…
Response to a post by Ken Williams who said:
Greetings!
We went from the AP 50 to the AP 70. We had no problems with the AP 50, but Jeff said that Simrad isn’t making the AP50s anymore and that if anything failed, getting spare parts would be a challenge. I actually have two autopilots; the pr…
Oh, 1 more thing. We do not have a boat monitoring system on 6829 but are considering a system for 7625. What, if anything, would you do differently regarding your current system?
Response to a post by Ken Williams who said:
Greetings!
We went from the AP 50 to the AP 70. We had no problems with the AP 50, but Jeff said that Simrad isn’t making the AP50s anymore and that if anything failed, getting spare parts would be a challenge. I actually have two autopilots; the pr…
Thanks! We have 2 AP 70’s on 6829. Probably will just stick with these on the 7625. Like you, we don’t want to have to learn 2 different systems.
Response to a post by Renee Hazellief who said:
What new autopilot system are you placing onboard? We are owner’s of Nordhavn 6829 “Aquilla Renee” and have Nordhavn 7625 on order. Since we are having at rest TRAC stabilizers installed on the 7625 we are most anxious to hear how well yours works. W…
Greetings!
We went from the AP 50 to the AP 70. We had no problems with the AP 50, but Jeff said that Simrad isn’t making the AP50s anymore and that if anything failed, getting spare parts would be a challenge. I actually have two autopilots; the primary system and a backup. I kept the backup as AP50 based.
What new autopilot system are you placing onboard? We are owner’s of Nordhavn 6829 “Aquilla Renee” and have Nordhavn 7625 on order. Since we are having at rest TRAC stabilizers installed on the 7625 we are most anxious to hear how well yours works. We are headed to Alaska. Hoping to arrive there in July and then possibly cruising to Hawaii this winter.
By the way, we recently met your friends, Laust and Monika Sondergaard in St. Croix. They speak very highly of you and Roberta.
Hi Ken. Great post and very informative.
Steve D’Antonio is a good friend; he also inspected my boat pre-purchase (his pre-purchase inspection on a different boat caused us to walk away from the deal entirely). It took me nearly two years to fix everything he found. You are wise to have used his service.
We, too, have constant abuse to both our tender and our swim platform from those high-adventure boarding experiences. Plus the tender sometimes bashes into the step all on its own when we trail it at anchor. We’ve found that in the heaviest seas, it’s actually easier for us to board the big boat at the midships boarding gate — the swim step can be, as you said, scribing a very large arc, and more than equipment abuse, we worry about injury. Your boarding gates are somewhat higher than ours, but it is something to consider; a “fender step” might help bridge the gap.
Our good friends aboard Blossom (N60) have those pedal kayaks and love them; I spent a couple of days on one and can say they are very nice. Sadly we don’t have the space and have settled for an inflatable model (instead we have two motor scooters on deck, which we have found more useful).
I know I’ve mentioned this before, but as a reminder our professional paths very nearly intersected; I was an executive at Imagination Network in the post-Sierra days, with my office in the Old Barn in Oakhurst.
-Sean
Response to a post by James who said:
Another cracking blog…! LGood choice for your new tender but Ken, I reckon you should have gone with the joystick on the helm chair option, ok so not an overly healthy choice but would have looked mighty cool!!!!
James
Pendana
I’ve never actually been “too lazy” for something before. I’m trying to clean up my act. Grin.
It would have been cool though. I would have felt like Captain Kirk!
Another cracking blog…! LGood choice for your new tender but Ken, I reckon you should have gone with the joystick on the helm chair option, ok so not an overly healthy choice but would have looked mighty cool!!!!
James
Pendana